Ep 107: Jarrod Glandt – From Being in Debt to Millionaire Status in 4 Years
Jarrod Glandt is the president of Cardone Enterprises, co-host of the Young Hustlers podcast, and an investor of Cardone Capital and the Hundy app.
In four yearsβ time, he went from being in debt to millionaire statusβa change he attributes to his willingness to work hard and make big sacrifices.
Today on Stay Paid, Jarrod shares his amazing story, and offers a wealth of sales knowledge and actionable advice that will leave you feeling fired up and ready to take your business to the next level.
Key Points:
- The mark of a great salesperson isnβt how well they can close, but their ability to create opportunities for new business.
- When you get your team truly invested in their own goals, you wonβt need to worry about motivating them.
- The phone is still the single most powerful tool for salespeople, but you need to make a lot of calls to learn to use it well.
Q: Introduce yourself to our audience.
I grew up in San Diego. My dad always ran motorcycle dealerships. I started hanging out there with him when I was 15 or 16 years old. These were relatively big transactions with a high volume of sales. In that environment, you get exposed to sales quickly and understand how the process works.
Anything like that is a great place to cut your teeth. You get a lot of interactions with customers, and you get to see people.
I started selling advertising in AutoTrader magazine, and became the #2 rep in the country. I was the youngest rep in the country, and I was making $200,000 a year. I was out partying all the time. I wound up doing drugs and getting into that whole thing.
I quit the job and the money stopped. It was the lowest of lows. I had a bright future. Then, following one bad decision after another, I was living at my buddyβs house because I couldnβt afford to pay rent.
I wound up moving to Austin to work for my dad, and then I moved back to San Diego. I needed to do my own thing, because I didnβt want my success to be tied back to my dad.
I ended up in a job I hated. But then my dad sent me a link to Grant Cardone, because heβd just bought one of his sales programs for his team. I watched the clip, then I devoured every piece of content I could find online.
I called the office every day for a month trying to get them to interview me. Eventually, they hired me. I started grinding. When I started, there were only four employees. The office was in Grantβs pool house. Now we have 178 employees.
I really didnβt become a salesperson until I started working for Grant. So many people think theyβre salespeople, but itβs garbage. Theyβre not professionals. Theyβre not even close to it. Nothing they do is professional, but they call themselves that because they can talk to people.
That was the first big realization I hadβunderstanding the process and the training that goes into it. Thatβs what ultimately gets you the results that you hope for.
Now, as weβre building our team out, itβs a matter of transfer, management, scaling, evolving, and partnerships. But most people never get out of first gear because they already think theyβre a proβand thatβs nothing more than a joke.
Q: What do you think it means to be a professional salesperson?
In my opinion, everybody likes to talk about closing, and they think thatβs the badge of honor. But theyβre wrong. The badge of honor as a salesperson is βI can go find my own business, and I can build a business.β Mastering the art of creation of opportunity is what sales truly is.
The average customer is more than halfway through the sales process by the time you make an offer. Theyβve done the research. That doesnβt mean the close isnβt important, because it is. But the thing that kills salespeople in our back office is they canβt even get anybody to talk to. They canβt get anybody on the phone or anybody to show up for an appointment.
If you can get the front end of a deal done, youβll become a superstar. Even if youβre not a great closer, marketing and branding will still grow your company. Some of the biggest companies in the world have terrible sales processes.
Q: Whatβs your view on the importance of phones in todayβs sales landscape?
The phone is the most powerful tool a salesperson has. Letβs say you have a toolbox. The screwdriver is probably the thing you use more than anything, but that doesnβt mean you donβt need a hammer or pliers.
The phone is the lifeblood, but that doesnβt mean you donβt need to email, or leverage text or video. You hear these stories about real estate agents earning millions of dollars based on referrals. What you donβt see is the three years of making calls and building a groundswell to get the train out of the station. It goes slow, and most people donβt have the perseverance.
Q: Why is it that salespeople donβt have perseverance?
Β Incorrect estimation of effort. Thatβs the purpose of The 10x Rule. A lot of people donβt know how Grant went out and built his first business. Grant would go out for 18 months on the road without going home. Heβd go from city to city, and he would cold call and door knock to sell sales training to businesses.
Imagine what that takes. Right now, we can sit with our phones. We can go on the internet and do research. We can ping somebody on LinkedIn. We can send videos. Imagine going on the road and dealing with all that failure.
Now, Grant is like, βDude, this is easy compared to what I had to do.β
Q: What has worked for you?
You have to have goals big enough and be willing to make big sacrifices to reach them. One of the things that turns people off about us is that weβre laying out a plan to do something big. Everybody says they want to do something big until they have to write the check or put in the work.
It took a lot of work for me to get to $1 million a year. I was sleeping on an air mattress and making $180,000 a year. I was banking all my money into investments in real estate.
Youβve got to go all-in six days a week. Maybe other people are smarter and can get there faster, but I had to come in at 6 a.m. every morning, and I worked six days for two years. The third year, I hired somebody to help me so I didnβt have to do the Saturday work.
I was a madman, but it built my business up. It got me out of the station. If I had to get deals, I could call people up and get referrals out of nowhere. Before youβre a great closer, you need to be great at creating an opportunity.
Q: How do you vet your salespeople to make sure theyβre the right fit?
The biggest mistake people make with hiring is not hiring people or looking for the perfect hire. Youβve got to be willing to go through people to find the right people. You have to look for people who are willing and capable. Theyβve also got to be coachable.
We have personality assessments that help us figure out the right people. Most of the people we hire were making $70,000-100,000 and wanted to make more money.
As a salesperson, you donβt have to do a lot to make 7 or 8 grand per month. The bar is low.
At the 10x Growth Conference, we talk about scaling and building teams. You constantly have to be getting around people who want to do better. You have to have support, community, content, strategies, and tactics. Getting through those first two or three years is hardβthatβs why most people quit.
If youβre not constantly investing in yourselfβif youβre not treating your craft like a profession and an artβyou will not survive. A recession is coming, and people are probably going out of business. When the pie gets smaller, the strong survive.
If we go through a crash, our business changes. But I know I have that grit built in to be who I want to be in that scenario. If you can create opportunities, thatβs freedom. You can write your check.
When you have that level of confidence, you still get fed when the pie gets smaller.
Q: How do you keep your own team motivated?
You donβt motivate them first. You get them to buy into themselves. You get them to buy into what they want, and then you show them how they can get that working for you.
If you can lead with the thing they want and hold them accountable, you donβt need to motivate people. All you have to do is be a leader who helps them get what they want. And youβll get what you want.
When weβre having one on one meetings, we go back to their goals. Where are you at with your goals? Spend an hour and a half building out your ideal life. Where would you go? What would you do?
If I could get to a million dollars a month in income, thatβd get me to $499.99,000 a month in passive income. That creates the flywheel where I live my dream life on a million dollars a year. Now, how do I do it?
Iβve mapped out what my ideal life would look like. Iβve thought about having these homes and this car. Β Just now, I realized Iβm driving the car I wrote down. Itβs all starting to come together for me, because I just get so focused. Iβm willing to go in and work with Grant, pound, grind, and crash.
Iβve been working three weeks straight. You can make as much money as you want if youβve created the right opportunity. I became a multimillionaire because I found the right person and was in the right vehicle.
If you have intention and youβre willing to act like a professional, you can write your own story. Itβs easier than most people think. You try Β to overcomplicate it, but youβve just got to do it.
The magic bullet is βmake the call.β Show up. There is no magic script. If you committed to making a bad call rather than making no call, youβd be successful.
Everybody sucks in the beginning, and itβs not until you make a bunch of calls that you figure it out. If youβre not producing at the level you think should be, commit for the next six months to making terrible calls every day in high volumes.
Q: What advice would you give your younger self?
I would tell myself to take making money seriously. If Iβd have known at 18 what I knew at 26 β¦
When I came to work for Grant, I was in debt. I was a millionaire four years later. The only thing that changed was the right information.
You need to become serious about personal development. You need to be a master of the cold call. If Iβd have done that for two years at 20, I couldβve had a sales job where I made some real money.
The amount of options that will give you when youβre older will be exponentially larger than if you donβt do that. Your phone represents access to your dreams, if you can only get great at it.
Action Items:
- Show up. Make the phone call. Knock on the door.
- Build a community of people you can be inspired by.
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